Athyglisvert samtal

 Var að koma heim úr yndislegu fríi úr sólinni á Forida. Þessi frásögn beið mín í tölvupóstinum mínum. Kannski hafa einhverjir séð þetta áður, en það hefur enn sitt gildi. Ég er þeirrar skoðunar að þeir sem ganga af trúnni, þ.e trúnni á Guð, þeir hafa einfaldlega tekið þá ákvörðun að trúa mönnum. Eða þeir sem nú segja ég trúi ekki lengur biblíunni, eftir að hafa lesið þessa eða þessa bók, þeir hafa einfaldlega tekið aðra trú.

En hér kemur samtalið sem átti sér stað í skólastofu fyrir mörgum árum.

An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his Class on the Problem Science has with GOD, The ALMIGHTY.
He asks one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student    : Yes, sir.
Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?
Student    : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GODGood ?
Student    : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GODto Heal him.
                   Most of us would attempt to Help Others who are ill.
                   But GOD didn't.
                   How is this GODGood then ? Hmm ?

( Student is silent )
 
Professor : You can't answer, can you ?
                   Let's start again, Young Fella.
                   Is GODGood ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student    : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student    : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right.
                   Tell me son, is there evil in this World ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ?
                   And GODdid make Everything. Correct ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

( Student does not answer )

Professor : Is there Sickness ? Immorality ? Hatred ? Ugliness ?
                   All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they ?
Student    : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
 
( Student has no answer )
 
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.
                   Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD ?
Student    : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD ?
Student    : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD ?
                   Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GODfor that matter ?
Student    : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM ?
Student    : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist.
                   What do you say to that, son ?
Student    : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes. Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.
Student    : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat ?
Professor : Yes.
Student    : And is there such a thing as Cold ?
Professor : Yes.
Student    : No sir. There isn't.

( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events )

Student    : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,
                   a Little Heat or No Heat.
                   But we don't have anything called Cold.
                   We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
                   There is no such thing as Cold.
                   Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
                   We cannot Measure Cold.
                   Heat is Energy.
                   Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.

( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
 
Student    : What about Darkness, Professor ? Is there such a thing as Darkness ?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness ?
Student    : You're wrong again, sir.
                   Darkness is the Absence of Something.
                   You can have Low Light,  Normal Light , Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
                   But if you have No Light Constantly, you have Nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it ?
                   In reality, Darkness isn't.
                   If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you ?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student    : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is Flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how ?
Student    : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
                   You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GODand a Bad GOD.
                   You are viewing the Concept of GODas something finite, something we can measure.
                   Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought.
                   It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
                   To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
                   Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.  
                   Death is Not the Opposite of Life : just the Absence of it.
                   Now tell me, Professor, do you Teach your Students that they Evolved from a Monkey ?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student    : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir ?

( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )

Student    : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
                   cannot even prove that this Process is an On - Going Endeavor,
                   are you not Teaching your Opinion, sir ?
                   Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher ?

( The Class is in Uproar )

Student    : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever Seen the Professor's Brain ?

( The Class breaks out into Laughter )

Student    : Is there anyone here who has ever Heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, Touched or Smelt it ? . . .
                   No one appears to have done so.
                   So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that
                   you have No Brain, sir.
                   With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir ?

( The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable )

Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student    : That is it sir . . .
                   the Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
                   That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

 
It turned out later that the student is Albert Einsten
 

  

Athugasemdir

[Jakob (IP-tala skráð) 21.5.2008 kl. 00:04]

ha ha ha þetta er sniðugt.

Er þetta samt byggt á raunverulegu samtali við A.E. Ég hef aldrei heyrt þetta? 

[Jóhannes H. Proppé (IP-tala skráð) 21.5.2008 kl. 00:47]

Nei, þetta er enn ein rökvilla sköpunarsinna, sem grunnskólakrakki gæti svarað léttilega. Auk þess er þetta ranglega eignað Einstein, enda var hann sérfróður um það sem enskir kalla Theroretical Physics eða eðlisfræði sem sönnuð er með stærðfræði frekar en mælingum.

Svo til að vitna í Einstein sjálfan:

I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.

- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2

[Jón Valur Jensson, 21.5.2008 kl. 01:48]

Þakka þér góða sögu og merkingarfulla og væntanlega lærdómsríka fyrir marga, Kristinn. – Með kærri kveðju,

[Mofi, 21.5.2008 kl. 09:28]

Takk fyrir flotta sögu Kristinn.  Því miður held ég að Jóhannes hafi rétt fyrir sér með að þetta er ranglega eignað Einstein.  Þótt að Einstein svo sem trúði ekki á Guð Biblíunnar þá vissi Einstein að eitthvað skapaði alheiminn því að alheimurinn hafði byrjun  sem hans eigin afstæðiskenning sannaði.

[Kristinn Ásgrímsson, 21.5.2008 kl. 21:20]

Eins og ég sagði´, þá fékk ég þessa sögu í tölvupósti og ætla ekki að þræta um, hvort nemandinn var Einstein eður ei. Hitt er annað, að sagan sýnir okkur að það er sama hvora heimsýnina þú hefur, þróun eða sköpun, þá byggist það á "TRÚ" .

Þakka ykkur öllum innlitið kæru vinir.

[Steingrímur Jón Valgarðsson, 22.5.2008 kl. 12:12]

Þetta er snilld!

[Linda, 24.5.2008 kl. 09:17]

Nákvæmlega Kristinn

" Hitt er annað, að sagan sýnir okkur að það er sama hvora heimsýnina þú hefur, þróun eða sköpun, þá byggist það á "TRÚ" .

Merkilegt að ekki megi sýna fram á það, án þess að sumir eflaust ágætir einstaklingar koma á handahlaupum til að hrópa "nei nei nei"

kv. Linda.